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Eragon Zarroc · Oct 07, 2009, 05:02 PM // 17:02

if there is a limit, there is no way ur going to reach it through regular play :P it would be difficult enough trying to get it by farming deaths on purose

Eskimoz · Oct 07, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21

If you die too many times in game.... Samuel L. Jackson shows up and punches you through the head, he then stuffs you in a suitcase and runs off.

true story.

byteme! · Oct 08, 2009, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by Eskimoz

If you die too many times in game.... Samuel L. Jackson shows up and punches you through the head, he then stuffs you in a suitcase and runs off.

true story.

I can second this.

El Presidente · Oct 08, 2009, 02:52 AM // 02:52

They start taking away one of the 72 virgins for so many deaths...

Zebideedee · Oct 09, 2009, 09:14 AM // 09:14

You come back as a a ghostly apparition in GW2 to help the newbies, but for God's sake don't tell them who their dad is

drunk n angry · Oct 10, 2009, 06:20 AM // 06:20

man your guild/alliance are some jerks to feed you crap like that and not even set you straight about it. the worst of things that can happen is if you are in hard mode and you get to 60dp as a party. then you are dead and are returned to the outpost from which you came from LOL. that is the worst thing that can happen.

Iuris · Oct 10, 2009, 09:37 AM // 09:37

Right, all the joking aside, there are two questions that this raised for me:

-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work?

-what is the minimum number of deaths for a Legendary defender of Ascalon? Just how many times must the enemies kill you to level them up enough?

El Presidente · Oct 10, 2009, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by Iuris

-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work??

If there is a limit, I don't think anyone (maybe Anet) knows.

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Originally Posted by Iuris

-what is the minimum number of deaths for a Legendary defender of Ascalon? Just how many times must the enemies kill you to level them up enough?

Players have reached LDoA with as little as 80k deaths using a 2 char setup (multi-accounts ftw). It could also take as many as 150k + deaths just using a gate monkey and going solo.

To the second part of your question ~ http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Death_leveling

You can estimate the number of your deaths it will take, depending on your level, for the Charr to reach the level you decide to kill them at.

A group with 2 Hunters does more damage than any other group make up. Your optimal setup would be all Hunters; however, I've had a group hit level 20 in as little as 4 hours (I'm lvl 19) or, worse case in 7 hours.

http://www.presearing.com/forum2/index.php?board=18.0 has many threads about a DL session.

MagmaRed · Oct 10, 2009, 12:26 PM // 12:26

I don't know what the OP asked his guild/alliance, and I don't know what they told him. However, I can imagine the guild/alliance response may have been thinking in terms of HM. Once you reach 60% DP for the whole team, any additional death causes you to fail and only get an option to zone back to the last city. Although this isn't a 'permanent' death, it does mean you can't be rezed anymore until you have zoned.

Not sure, but possibly there was some misunderstanding for the questions and answers involved.

Iuris · Oct 10, 2009, 12:40 PM // 12:40

Well, then we already know short integers are out, meaning we can safely keep dieing for years to come

dilan155 · Oct 10, 2009, 01:43 PM // 13:43

they lie, nothing happens, you just keep getting more and more deaths.

stella_wisha · Nov 02, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by Chthon

This is what happens when you die.

You just made my day.
I'mna go kill my GW characters now. . .

Operative 14 · Nov 02, 2009, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by Iuris

-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work?

Tis an interesting question, and maybe that's the answer for all those people that want Legendary survivor on their old characters! You just need to die 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 times and then the counter rests, and BAM! Legendary survivor!

Bluefeather · Nov 03, 2009, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Reformed

If it were true there would be no LDoAs in the game. Can't speak for others but mine took a bit over 115k to finish up. There is also some forum post floating around on here with some crazy guy that took the counter up over a mil just for kicks. As others have said, nothing happens.

I saw that, too.

So, no limit to deaths. No deduction to your gold, no deduction to your level. No effect at all.

squiros · Nov 03, 2009, 08:49 AM // 08:49

this is actually an interesting question - what happens when you die too many times. it depends; if anet is using ints, which most coders would:

Maximum unsigned long = 4,294,967,295

unsigned - since you can't die a negative number of times. so 4 trillion and change. if anet is using unsigned long, 32 bits will buy you 4+ trillion deaths, at which point, you will be eligible for your survival title again

. otoh, if anet decided to use their 32 bits for a float, the game will lock your death count around 1e8 or 1e9. at this point, the last mantissa bit will be lost. that is to say, to a computer, 1000000 + .0000001 = 1000000. it is NOT 1000000.0000001. this is because the computer uses scientific notation to store it, and the .0000001 is so insignificant, that the precision is lost. if this is the case, even an infinite amount of deaths in 1 death increments won't earn you survivor back. of course, if anet is using a double float or some such wasteful element, it'll lock around a much higher number, but the same concept applies.

to speculate, if it is a long int, and you were able to die once a second every second, it would take some 136 years to do it.

rowdog · Nov 03, 2009, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by Iuris

-is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work?

4,294,967,295 would be the highest value for an unsigned 32 bit integer. I would be suprised if Anet used anything else. Who knows what happens if you get there. Maybe you'll find an overflow, maybe you'll just find your deaths set to 1, maybe Samuel L. Jackson shows up and ...

On the other hand, my XP doesn't seem to be overflowing so maybe they're not relying directly on the native word length.

Edit: Um, sorry, I don't actually have 4 trillion XP, I suppose the beer made me loose 3 decimals, sigh. The real point is that there are libraries for dealing with very large numbers but the overhead probably wouldn't be worth it for a death counter, unless it's already in use throughout the game.

imnotyourmother · Nov 03, 2009, 01:50 PM // 13:50

I have over 120,000 deaths on my War in PreSearing.

Oct 09, 2009, 09:14 AM // 09:14	#25
Zebideedee Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W Profession: N/Me	You come back as a a ghostly apparition in GW2 to help the newbies, but for God's sake don't tell them who their dad is Last edited by Zebideedee; Oct 09, 2009 at 09:17 AM // 09:17..

Oct 07, 2009, 05:02 PM // 17:02	#21
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	if there is a limit, there is no way ur going to reach it through regular play :P it would be difficult enough trying to get it by farming deaths on purose

Oct 07, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21	#22
Eskimoz Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: My house Profession: W/	If you die too many times in game.... Samuel L. Jackson shows up and punches you through the head, he then stuffs you in a suitcase and runs off. true story.

Oct 08, 2009, 02:52 AM // 02:52	#24
El Presidente Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains Guild: Custer Was Ganked [7th] Profession: R/	They start taking away one of the 72 virgins for so many deaths...

Oct 10, 2009, 06:20 AM // 06:20	#26
drunk n angry Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in a quiet little town that i love. Guild: Ancient Dragoons [AGED] Profession: W/	man your guild/alliance are some jerks to feed you crap like that and not even set you straight about it. the worst of things that can happen is if you are in hard mode and you get to 60dp as a party. then you are dead and are returned to the outpost from which you came from LOL. that is the worst thing that can happen.

Oct 10, 2009, 09:37 AM // 09:37	#27
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Right, all the joking aside, there are two questions that this raised for me: -is there an actual limit for the death counter? Integer? Long Integer? Does, in the fullness of time, the counter have a soft/hard limit? And if so, does the client crash or does the counter simply not work? -what is the minimum number of deaths for a Legendary defender of Ascalon? Just how many times must the enemies kill you to level them up enough?

Oct 10, 2009, 12:26 PM // 12:26	#29
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	I don't know what the OP asked his guild/alliance, and I don't know what they told him. However, I can imagine the guild/alliance response may have been thinking in terms of HM. Once you reach 60% DP for the whole team, any additional death causes you to fail and only get an option to zone back to the last city. Although this isn't a 'permanent' death, it does mean you can't be rezed anymore until you have zoned. Not sure, but possibly there was some misunderstanding for the questions and answers involved.

Oct 10, 2009, 12:40 PM // 12:40	#30
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Well, then we already know short integers are out, meaning we can safely keep dieing for years to come

Oct 10, 2009, 01:43 PM // 13:43	#31
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	they lie, nothing happens, you just keep getting more and more deaths.

Nov 03, 2009, 08:49 AM // 08:49	#35
squiros Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005	this is actually an interesting question - what happens when you die too many times. it depends; if anet is using ints, which most coders would: Maximum unsigned long = 4,294,967,295 unsigned - since you can't die a negative number of times. so 4 trillion and change. if anet is using unsigned long, 32 bits will buy you 4+ trillion deaths, at which point, you will be eligible for your survival title again . otoh, if anet decided to use their 32 bits for a float, the game will lock your death count around 1e8 or 1e9. at this point, the last mantissa bit will be lost. that is to say, to a computer, 1000000 + .0000001 = 1000000. it is NOT 1000000.0000001. this is because the computer uses scientific notation to store it, and the .0000001 is so insignificant, that the precision is lost. if this is the case, even an infinite amount of deaths in 1 death increments won't earn you survivor back. of course, if anet is using a double float or some such wasteful element, it'll lock around a much higher number, but the same concept applies. to speculate, if it is a long int, and you were able to die once a second every second, it would take some 136 years to do it.

Nov 03, 2009, 01:50 PM // 13:50	#37
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	I have over 120,000 deaths on my War in PreSearing.